AI Announcer (00:09.858)
Welcome to Prompt This, the podcast for business leaders who've had it with AI hype and want the real deal. I'm this week's AI intro voice. Greg's your seasoned go-to guy for scaling sales teams and cracking the Silicon Valley playbook. Clint is a successful startup veteran who turns big ideas into thriving ventures. They cut through the noise to bring you analysis and playbooks on using AI to launch new ideas, scale your business and stop getting left behind. Now here are your hosts.
Clint (00:42.636)
Welcome to the podcast. is Clint.
This is Greg.
All right, folks, we've got a bit of a different week for us with this episode. Rather than interviewing a guest, we sat down together, Greg and I, and we went through some AI software, specifically a tool called Lovable. And it's a little bit of a show and tell today, a little bit of a different thing.
I thought it was really interesting. You picked the technology and it just blew me away. What I saw, I saw a week's worth of design and iteration collapsed into minutes.
Yeah, you know, I gotta tell you, in this episode, we're going to show you why your marketing team doesn't need to wait on their web developers anymore. We built a fully functional personal website live in minutes.
Greg (01:33.238)
So let's drop into it. Clint, take us through it.
All right, let's jump in.
Greg (01:41.942)
All right. I'm really looking forward to this session. Clint. Yeah. The audience, just so you know, I went to college with Clint and he's got a computer science degree and there's no one I've seen. We're more deeper in a computer than Clint. In fact, we used to call him command line Clint. So let's let's get command line.
You never called me command line, Clint. There's many that up right now.
Well, in front of you, but anyway, let's pull command line Clint out and see what you've been up to. You've been so busy over the last couple of weeks and it's been a long time since we've really just brought up some technology that
Okay.
Clint (02:23.374)
I have been nerding out. No doubt about it. Yeah. I've been nerding out for the last several weeks, going deep into a project, learning a lot of cool new things, learning how you work with AI, right? And looking at it primarily through the lens of a marketer, right? Building out, I'm helping a group pull together a whole go-to-market motion, right? For a new startup. And I've been in there just learning a lot of stuff that I wanted to share with people. And there's some really cool stuff that is
super approachable by people at a whole series of different skill levels. Well, I want to show you, jump it into Claude code and like from a hard code coders perspective, how is that world just totally changed? And I think that's really applicable to like kind of the people who are in the world of website development and website maintenance and that sort of thing. But that's usually only kind of a fraction of a marketing team. So I want to show some other tools that I've been playing with that are very approachable by people of all skill levels.
Right? So I think we should take a look at lovable, which is just amazing. I got to tell you, I am, am, all of them are amazing, but in terms of being accessible by mere mortals, lovable is cool.
Yeah, I want to see that one. know a lot of our, you know, a few of our guests have talked about it and just raved about it. Um, see on LinkedIn. It's the topic of a lot of posts within our kind of our audience range. um, and I've never actually seen it. So, um, so this is great. You, jumped in and put, and I've built a few websites with it.
I have, I more than websites. I've built like little mini applications and you can build full on applications in lovable, but let's, let's dig into it and start looking at it. This is your arsenal of tools. If you're building a new company, whatever your title is, but you kind of own that sales and marketing motion, you're going to live inside a clod. You're going to live inside of lovable. And I love to show them off and tell you why.
Greg (04:25.814)
One by one. Yeah, let's start with lovable. I that's one I want to see. want to see why don't you put it put a web.
Yeah, share the screen here. Give me just a minute pulling that up here. But let me set the stage with, with kind of a project that I want to work on here. And the project I want to work on is I think it's time for you to have a personal website. Okay. Anything about that idea. Everybody talks about that. Like, like you and I started off listening to all these podcasts.
I like it. Let's see.
Clint (04:59.628)
like a year ago and said to ourselves, Hey, we want to have a podcast too. And I know you and I listened to a whole series of podcasts about people talking about what it means to become an influencer, what it means to become a podcaster. And I know one of the things that was recommended over and over again was that you should have your own personal website that tells your personal story that compliments all the other things you're doing. So I think it's time for you to have a personal website. Let's build it today. All right. Let's jump in.
Perfect. So we're going to build it. of like our podcast one where we're just going to make pieces of it and I'll go fill it all in later. Is that what it is?
Well, let me walk you through it. Let's start with, let's start. Okay, let's start with a finished product just to kind of give you an idea of where we're going to head towards. So I did, I did a little bit of work beforehand to kind of get prepped. I built this in about less than 10 minutes, less than 10 minutes. Check this out. How's that for a website?
Alright, let's do this thing.
Greg (05:57.858)
That's pretty professional.
There's your face there looking good. AI for revenue leaders. You don't have time for hype. And look, I can book time for you to speak. I can work with you. can click on these buttons. I can click here and go to the prompt this podcast. Just a bunch of content that I haven't wired them all together yet, but I'll show you how we do wire them together.
But like all this content about you as a revenue leader, I didn't write any of this. I did not, I didn't even tell, I didn't even tell it what direction to go. It figured it out.
You didn't.
Clint (06:42.122)
I this up from scratch for you. And the way that I approached this particular project was I ultimately built it in silo of Lovable. And we're going to take a look at Lovable here. And this is the Lovable user interface. And there's this palette on the right-hand side you see here where the website comes out. You can see it's different than what I showed you.
We're going to work on that in just a second. You can build a totally legit website. So with their free version, everything I'm doing right now, you can go to their website, you can build it, you can go to their free trial, and you can build it for free super quick and be ready to go. I've been using enough of Lovable that I'm paying for their first tier, which is like $25 a month, which gets you like 200 credits a month, think, something like that. So I can build like 20 apps.
or 20 websites a month with that. And I've burned through all those credits, man.
Knowing you, you probably burned through them in about eight minutes. Yeah, I your credit card went right back down. know you.
So what I had learned to do is go kind of work it all out and figure it all out inside of chat GPT first. Right. Build your lovable prompt in chat GPT. Cause you, know, whether you're using the free edition of chat GPT or you're paying for it, you can just, you can, you can type as many questions and tune things as many times you want, and you're not burning up a bunch of credits. So I'm to type in here, we're going to create a.
Greg (08:01.314)
that's smart, yeah.
Clint (08:19.822)
personal website for Greg Rosenthal, co-host of the Prompt This Podcast. Write this. That's us. Go do deep research on Greg and then look for interesting details.
that should go into his website, then build the website as a set of prompts for lovable, right? Prompts for lovable. And you and I always, I'm one of those people when I type stuff, have to, I just, see that red squiggly line and I have to do spell correct and you're always like, don't bother, doesn't matter. The LLMs understand it.
I learned from one of our prior guests. said, just keep going and stay fast. It will know.
All right, so I'm going to do it anyways, just because.
I'm afraid for you to click the button. don't want all right. So deep research on how deep is this thing going?
Clint (09:34.574)
Other research, who is Craig Rosenthal? Well, he's best known for the Prompt This podcast. Nicely done, man. AI and sales strategy leader, a podcaster and thought leader. it pulls out the early tech curiosity. Remember we talked about that in our very first episode that we did, the trailer? Talks about your podcasting style. Hey, did you know that you're pragmatic and no-nonsense?
Themes, we want to talk about your AI driven sales transformation leadership. We want to talk about all these other different things. Wow, that's not bad. Right?
That's really good.
I might just start there, right? And so the way this has got it built out, it prompted it. You know, this is interesting. This is the thing about working with any of the LLMs. You'll ask what you think is basically the same question twice in a row, and you can get slightly different output each time. So last time I didn't, it did not kick it out as a separate set of prompts for each section of the website. It just gave me one...
set of prompts. So I'm going to say
Clint (10:46.766)
Should I?
Let's combine this into one lovable prompt. See what it says. Is there any problem with that? I don't think there should be a problem. But this is always the thing that I love about working with AI and LLMs is like when you don't know what to do next, just ask the LLM. It'll tell you what to
to you.
Clint (11:11.81)
So long answer, sure, go ahead, but do it smartly. Okay, go ahead and smartly create unlovable super prompt.
that
That's just amazing how these LLMs have that kind of access to the data about you and pull together that quickly. It is pretty, pretty cool, huh? Yeah. So right now, everybody's kind of watching me type stuff in ChatGPT, which is not super interesting. So we're going to zip through this pretty quickly. But in the end, it's building my one big prompt to copy into Lovable to create that website.
And it's saying here things like you're designing a modern personal website for Greg Rosenthal, co-host of the Prompt This Podcast. Purpose of the website is to create a complete cohesive website that positions Greg as a trusted voice in practical AI leadership. It's talking about the audience, the design and feel, the site goals. It lists out a set of pages to build the home page, the about page, the podcast page, the insights page, the contact and connect page. It's getting it all there, right? Put it all in. So I'm going to copy that prompt.
Okay.
Clint (12:34.622)
And I'm going to go over to lovable and let's go ahead and start from scratch, but I'll go ahead and.
Create a new project in here and I'll type in all that content and I'll hit plan and it'll spit it out. Now, rather than burning yet another 10 of my precious credits right now, rather than me clicking the button, I'm gonna go over here and do a little bit of cooking show magic. And I've already done that once and that's what popped out right here. That's how this site popped out, right?
So if you were going to bake it, how long would you be waiting for the cooking process?
Two to three minutes. So if I hit click plan, yeah, it would take somewhere between two to three minutes to turn that one prompt into a website that I could click around. I've got about, I've got speaking, advisory, insights, podcast, contact notes. It's slightly different layout this time. It's funny how like I said earlier, AI doesn't always come out the exact same words every single time. But yeah, this is the website I built for you.
Amazing. Two to three minutes. Yeah. Let me talk about what I'm seeing here. Just, this is the first time I've seen this. So that was pretty amazing. So you had one chat GPT coach and, and build the prompt.
Greg (13:54.296)
So lovable, so it prompted lovable basically. You just had to copy paste and then.
Yeah, so if I wanted to change anything in that website, like the words being used, if I wanted to make them punchier or more dramatic or something like that, I could have tuned in the website words and structure to my preferences all inside of ChatGPT.
That's great. So what I'm seeing here is I click around this website is everything works. The buttons work. It looks amazingly professional and you can, you can book advisory time with me starting at $5,000 a session, which they nailed it, you know,
$5,000 for an advisory session dude you're
That's what lovable says. It definitely looked at my content and put a price tag on it.
Clint (14:46.862)
There's Chad GPT that came up with that price point. GPT kind leans in a little heavy at times.
No, but we all know that Chet-
Yeah, all kidding aside. Yeah, there's navigation there. You know, there's there's getting
Yeah.
Let's around in the site that we're going to get to.
Greg (15:03.618)
That's amazing, man.
So the final site I created for you versus the site that I have now, let's talk about updating it inside of Lovable. So first off, what you're seeing on my screen is I've got the final site. It's got your picture. It's got some color in there. And the one I'm working on at the moment doesn't have your picture in there and is kind of monochromatic. It's basically light blue, dark blue, and white.
So let's go do this. Let's go to LinkedIn. We're gonna add in your picture. All right. Let's go to LinkedIn and we're going to go to your LinkedIn page.
Could you give me a thumbs up while you're in there?
Let's go ahead and grab this particular picture of you. Actually, it's a different picture than what I showed earlier, but I like this one too. So I'm going to go ahead and copy the image address. And I'm going to say add in.
Clint (16:09.58)
this picture of Greg to the home page and the about page. So I'm in lovable for the people who are listening on the podcast. I'm back in lovable. I'm in the chat interface on the left-hand side. I have this chat view of all my commands that I've given a level on the right-hand side. I have a view of the website before I've added pictures, before I've added some splash of color, and I want to liven it up. So I'm now putting in the command.
add in this picture of Greg to the home page and the about page, and I grabbed the URL of your picture up on LinkedIn. So I just went to your LinkedIn profile, hovered over your picture, grabbed the URL of that, copied it in, and I'm going to paste it into Levels. So I gave it that command, add in this picture of Greg, and I gave it the URL, and let's see what happens. It's thinking right now. So I'm going to guess it's going to take
somewhere between 30 seconds in a minute, or I could be wrong. It's already flashing and it's doing work. So it's thinking about it right now.
So that's pretty cool. So, so what I'm seeing here is like, instead of going, you know, the old way going to LinkedIn download, you know, either screen grabbing or downloading the file and then positioning it in some tool. just told it where to put it and gave it a little link and it's, doing all, and there it is. Look at that. my God.
I can tell, make the picture bigger. It only grabbed the small LinkedIn.
Greg (17:47.936)
And this is why Clint runs out of credits all the time because he's a perfectionist.
It's when you start doing the tuning and stuff like that. So I made it only a little bit bigger position more squarely in the right side of the.
The home page. I'm burning through micro credits. This is probably point two of a credit right now as I'm doing these little micro edits. And you'll do 20, 30 of these micro edits after. So you built the great prompt in chat GPT. You put it inside a level and then you start tuning it around. See how I moved the picture around? Now, let's go look. Is it on your about page too? Yeah, there you go. It's on your about page. It's on your home page. So now I know that
Right.
Clint (18:35.158)
Greg, you're a.
You've got, you've got, you got the fun side of Greg. I think there's. Say and, and, the fun side of Greg, I think is not really coming out in the website right now. So it is business, but part of business is being fun. People want, need to want to talk to you. Right. So I'm to go do, go back to chat GPT here and I'm to say, add in a section to the website titled fun. That.
Some would say.
Greg (18:50.242)
business.
Clint (19:08.002)
describes Greg's passion for what kind of music?
I like that.
Rap? What do we want to call it?
Old school rap. That's good.
Old school rap.
Clint (19:24.814)
Yeah, I'll just say that, right? So, and then give me the lovable prompt to add it in. So I'm in Chat GPT and I said, add in a section to the website titled fun that describes Greg's passion for old school rap, then give me the level prompt to add it in. I did that in Chat GPT where I built it before. I'm gonna go ahead and click enter. And it's gonna spit out a prompt that I can add into lovable.
Clint (19:52.546)
I've got this new, new code from chat GPT, this new prompt that I've copied in. That's going to add the fun section. I've gone back to lovable. I'm cutting and pasting it into lovable. And I'm going to add a section to your website called fun. Right. And I haven't even really read the content yet. Right. So don't know what it's exactly. It's going to put in there. All right, here we go. So, it added this new tab at the top called fun.
Let's click into fun and it says in the title, off the clock beats bars and boom bap. Outside the world of AI strategy and revenue operations, Greg has a deep unapologetic love for old school rap and hip hop culture. Not as a casual listener, as a student of the craft. There's the golden era. There's a reason the golden era resonates with him. The best MCs. Okay. And so then it.
Talks about them foundation golden era lyricism first the producers culture. It just like all the things that you think are cool Didn't the Stinny Bands this time? Avoided the bands. That's funny
It avoided all the
and it used the famous unapologetic. That is one that the, all of it.
Clint (21:05.4)
Right after flipping this script, isn't it? It's unapologetic. Let's flip the script and go unapologetic on you now.
But all kidding aside, it laid it out like a professional website and you know, we built, we built our podcast website and spent a ton of time designing something like this. Probably a week's worth of effort. just put together in maybe seven minutes now. So that is incredible. And all for the total of.
Clint (21:42.19)
Exactly. And I'll do, I'm going to do one last thing because I'm, because I know you and you're not, you're not a blue suit kind of guy every day. You, you, you'll, you'll throw on the tie, but you're also one to chill out. So I don't think there's enough color in here. Add a pop of color to the site that reflects Greg's love of old school.
Wrap. Let's see what it does for color.
kind of navigating the end result back to what I showed you at the very beginning. Let's see if it kind of pop of color it puts in this time. And that's the cool thing is you can iterate through things and change the look and position, but you're just typing in words to describe what you're doing. You're not writing code. so there you go, it popped in some color, a little bit of yellow.
Yeah. You know, take it back to business, which is really interesting. A marketer that has to sit down and design this or prototype it even to bring it to a meeting. you know, if you want to put color in and brand it, there's 10 tabs already, and you'd have to go through selectively clicking texts and all this thing.
You'd spend easily half a day putting color through the whole website. Just going to all the different files, changing things, going back and forth. Do I want this color? Do I want that color?
Greg (23:13.08)
This did it in 10 seconds.
So here's your new website, man. This is your personal website. And here's one of the things I love the most about Lovable, right? Because everything I just showed you up to now, I could do in Claude code.
Good.
All right, you can do everything I just did in Cloud Code, except this next step is just a lot more complicated in Cloud Code. I'm going to go ahead and publish this out. I'm going click the Publish button, and I'm going to call it grosenthal.lovable.app. you have an unlimited number of URLs you can create under the lovable.app domain. So every single thing I can create in Lovable, I can publish it out to a new URL.
but it's all going to be But anybody can see this. Now you can actually change things up. You can set it to anyone or if you buy the business version of lovable, you can limit it down to your organization only. So you can do password protected for people inside of your business version of the lovable app or it's available to anyone.
Greg (24:02.52)
We'll you then.
Greg (24:23.982)
Alright, let's publish it out to everyone and put that link in the show notes so people can go see this.
There you go. We'll do that. Grosenthal.lovable.app. Let's go ahead and save it. It's available to anyone. There's some descriptions on there. I could change the icon that goes with it in the Fave icon in the upper left. I can change the title. I can change the description that gets listed. I'm to go ahead and click publish right now. And...
No, this is great. Yeah. I think what I'm, if I could summarize what I saw was, you know, traditionally there's always one or two people within a marketing department that are, you know, website builders and deep, you know, kind of get the project, they build it and send it back and get the iterations. Now almost anyone on the marketing floor can just stand up a, a website of something that they're assigned to and bring it to the meeting. then
You know, the first part of my career was all about writing code and building web-based applications. But, the last 10 years of my life have been all about Excel and PowerPoint, right? You know, I shifted into the executive ranks and I don't think I'd done a code check-in to the core product that I was owning in the past for years, right? And I wasn't even really...
spending time coding for fun. I was building spreadsheets for fun. So I was a spreadsheet dude. And so what I would do is I would build market sizing calculators, TAM spreadsheets, or I'd build a return on investment calculator. I'd build them and then I would share the spreadsheets out with people and go through a whole bunch of effort to make the spreadsheets look pretty and look like an application. You don't do that anymore at all. You don't do that in Excel, Greg. You do that all in lovable.
Clint (26:18.42)
And the way I kind of proved it to myself is I built this market sizing calculator inside of Excel and it took me about a week to get it dialed into exactly where I wanted it to be. And then I built one inside of lovable and it took me half a day. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So all these like little ancillary tools like landing pages or ROI calculators or any kind of.
That's great.
Clint (26:47.648)
interactive web experience that you're going to build to have a really compelling UX for your customers and your prospects. You don't have to go book time with your website developer, right? You don't have to go out and hire an agency. You can build all this right here, right now yourself. Get it pretty amazingly far along just by yourself. In most cases, get it production ready just by yourself. And it really just, think, unlocks the creativity of a marketing department as a whole.
Greg (27:22.222)
Okay, it's time for this week's AI Challenge. Now the AI Challenge is a takeaway assignment for our listeners to get their hands on some AI tools and do some exercises.
Today's AI challenge comes directly from today's episode and it's focusing on Lovable. You're going to go to lovable.app and you're going to learn how to create your own personal website in just minutes. You'll have just as much fun as we did. It's a great exercise. Be sure to use both chat GPT and Lovable together, but hey, we got all that in the instructions.
Yeah, look down into the show notes and you'll find a link that goes right to the blog. It's got all the instructions that you're going to need. Now, if you've just finished an AI deployment within your business, we'd love to hear about your experience, the good, the bad, all of it. So go to www.promptthis.ai, go to the contact us page, fill out the form and we'll be in touch to talk about the story.
Greg (28:23.884)
All right, so you're voting for lovable as a tool that every marketer needs right now.
Huge fan. Just like we looked at HeyGen a few weeks back and really came to the conclusion that HeyGen is a must-have tool for the creative side of the marketing department. Lovable is a must-have tool for the creative side as well as for the analytical side as well as the website development side. mean, Lovable is one of the tools you're going to have in your arsenal.
Super impressed with it.
I want to thank you for taking us through that and putting, you know, putting your time and effort into building this demo. Also, thanks for the website. I'm going to start booking time now, $5,000 an hour.
He needs to get posted out there. Yeah, I loved how it put in your billable rate and project time. You're going to be making some money here.
Greg (29:21.972)
Exactly. Well, anyways, that was time well spent and another AI wow moment here on prompt this.
Excellent. Yep. Had a lot of fun doing it. you know, we got a couple more coming up ahead of us that I'm looking forward to sharing with folks too.
Definitely.
And that's another episode of Prompt This.
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